It was a mobile phone video recording at the border of a Salafist rally in Frankfurt, Germany, which developed into a top clicked You-tube clip in the last days. The Video shows an upset Woman, calling passers by angrily to take action against people like Pierre Vogel. Meanwhile, even an English subtitled version is circulating in the world wide web and has been watched over 100.000 times. Now, she’s called the „courageous German“ who stands up defiantly against Pierre Vogel and his followers. Meanwhile, PI could make out the brave “fighter for the Occident”. We don’t want to give further details concerning her identity – guess why! – for her own safety. Heidi gave us an interview answering a few questions.

PI: Heidi, you have become a little “Internet star” overnight and even Glenn Beck has gave account of you in his radio show. What this feels like? Is this turbulence disagreeable for you?

Heidi: In the beginning, it was funny. I asked myself if I had acted the right way. Meanwhile however, I have to laugh about it over and over again. I consider some of the comments on You-tube as „below belt line“. A bit more respect can be expected. Respect is also a virtue some could learn again.

Have you been addressed by people after your appearance ever since?

No.

Please , give us a shot account of the Salafist event in Frankfurt. How was it for you and what was moving you to your words?

maybe, I should explain briefly why I was showing up there: When Pierre Vogel showed up with his followers in Frankfurt am Main on Römerberg the last time, I was rather shocked. The protestant church was open and radical Muslims used it as acting base. In my opinion, this could only have happened with the approval of the church leadership there. The atmosphere on Römerberg was back-breaking. Men and women, girls and boy, were standing apart. When I tried to greet male youths with a handshake, as it is common in Germany, they refused it. They consider a woman as dirty and therefore they don’t give their hand.

This time, I didn’t want to be there at first. A friend from Lebanon pushed me days before already and repeated emphatically: Heidi, we have to do something against it. When I came to the place the atmosphere was tense. Policemen were standing everywhere with bulletproof vests. The event location itself was locked off by crush barriers.

For the first time I was proud of the leftists who had disturbed the event effectively with slogans and banners in favor of Israel. Even if normally I don’t support their opinions. My personal motivation was to see and feel what’s happening in my city. Whats more, I have prayed. I want Frankfurt to live in peace.

What was leading to the well known scene?

The confrontation shown on the video began, when I tried to explain to Muslim girls, who just had loudly declared: „This is our religion…“, how different Jesus ans Mohamed were dealing with a sinner – in other words a woman:

#1 Jesus
Religious people bring a woman caught at adultery and want to stone her. Jesus answers to them: „Whoever of you, who is without sin, he shall throw the first stone.“ However, the sinner he dismisses with the words: „From now on don’t sin again.“ (The Bible, New Testament)

#2 Mohamed
A similar scene: A woman – again there is no guilty man – is caught a adultery. She has become pregnant in the meantime and is brought in front of Mohamed. He dismisses her until she has given birth to the child. She comes again and he dismisses her until she has weaned the child. Now the child is taken away from her and she is getting stoned.

The way of acting of Jesus and Mohamed in this very similar stories show clearly the basic difference between the two way of believe. This is what i have tried to explain to the girls.

A Muslim man, shown next to me on the pictures, couldn’t bear hearing this conversation and interfered aggressively. He was the trigger for my inner fire to break out, I can’t explain it otherwise. After this, I didn’t care for anything anymore. I just wanted to shout out the truth.

Are you a Christian, then?

It depends on what you consider this to be. Basically, yes. But when I think of all the people calling themselves Christians and don’t act alike, I don’t want to be called like that. A lot of Muslims even think Hitler – whom they admire so much because of his successful annihilation of Jews – would have been a Christian. In this case, I’m definitely none.

However, when the term is used otherwise, if you say, a Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ – somebody who loves Jesus and his word, the Bible and takes it as a benchmark for the own actions – then I am a Christian with all of my heart. There is no greater, no more loving example for my live than Jesus.

Many people who have watched the video recording have been impressed bey your civil courage. Have you been aware of the danger you were in in the situation of your appearance? Have you been threatened in any way afterwards?

I was fully aware of the danger of my „appearance“, how you call it. However, I knew nothing could have happened to me. There’s nothing the police could have done, I was too close to the crowd. The Bild newspaper had a slogan a few month ago: „Truth ever needs a courageous to speak it out.“ This is what I did.

A policeman has put himself protecting in front of you in the situation. Has there been a short talk with the policeman afterwards?

Yes, he was so kind. I was praising the other policemen too. Many have answered to me, they would rather sit at home on the sofa right now too. I am so proud of our police, dragging out the barrow of the responsibles over and over again. I feel sorry for them many times. They are so often senselessly brought into danger. Maybe, they should consider a strike.

Has there been for you some kind of „light bulb moment“? Why have you taken so much engagement positioning yourself against the Islamisation?

This is very easy to answer. By the fact, I have a lot to do with young people – most of them are Muslims. Which one of the horrifying examples still moving me shall I account?

The one of the young German in Offenbach who was blond and blue eyed and was therefore insulted as a Nazi;
or
of the veiled Moroccan girl, begging me for help, because she was afraid the brothers of her girl-friend, who had escaped with a German boy-friend, could do her harm, because she knew about it;
or
of the 18 years old Sofia (with German passport!) who disappeared one day after her 18th birthday and never showed up again in school. She had been shadowed moths before by her brother, because she had a boy-fired who was a Hindu. I did everything i could to help her. without success!
or
of the 19 years old young Pakistani woman who called me weeping on the mobile phone and told me, how her father had massively beaten her up and locked her in the apartment, only because some boy had sent her an SMS. Or, or,… Now you know what’s really moving me.

In your opinion, what danger is coming from a group like the one around Pierre Vogel?

This is very simple to answer as well – as we have made painful experiences for almost a century on this area on German soil. We had the brown and the red pestilence. I’m not sorry, I can’t call this way of thinking otherways, because millions of people have suffered from it and suffer still until today.

our brain is like a battlefield. We people are basically all the same. what makes the difference between us is the way how we are thinking. Our thinking affects our acting. Thinking is test-acting!

What Pierre Vogel is doing is simply an elaborate brain washing, like it was the case with Hitler, Goebbels, Stalin, Honecker and how they were all called. He is addressing himself directly towards foreign youths, because they often have problems with their own identity anyway. They are torn apart between the world their families came from and their German reality. They have a hard time. Islam means form many of them a piece of identification with the other world of their ancestors. That’s the open door, Vogel is using. He multiplies his bad ideas into this young people. That’s the real danger. Everything else are outcomes of it, I’d rather not think about yet. This is the reason why I’m also against Islam classes at our schools!

Are you acting in any other ways actively against the Islamisation or was this appearance in Frankfurt rather accidentally?

No, I’m not active in any way, but I take position, wherever I can.

What would you suggest the PI readers. How should they defend themselves against the Islamisation?

Hatred is definitely the wrong answer. we can’t answer hatred by hatred! I believe, we still have a chance. We have to go back to our Judeo-Christian roots which are a blessing for our country until today.

many people, especially women, have fought for the rights we all – also the Muslims – enjoy today. These Freedoms have to be protected. If we don’t make it now it will likely be too late. There are things who have to be done in a appointed time – if we miss this time, we hardly ever can cancel the done failure.

Not only we had two world wars. Germany is the country of poets and thinkers. It’s the country of reformation. Here, martin Luther translated the Bible into German. After that the letterpress printing was invented. A lot of inventions, and Progress was developed by our people. We really have to remember this. I love my country, I love Germany, where German language is spoken. Because I love it, I’m also ready to defend the country and it’s people with my means.

Somebody told me: “Only the one who loves his country will pay the prize to defend it.“ This is a true sentence worth thinking about. Everybody has to to whatever is in his might. But I know, we need not only a political answer towards Islam, but also a spiritual. Christians in Germany and Europe must wake up!

Heidi, we thank you for this conversation and wish you all the best for your future engagement.

» For German interview read here.

It was a mobile phone video recording at the border of a Salafist rally in Frankfurt, Germany, which developed into a top clicked You-tube clip in the last days. The Video shows an upset Woman, calling passers by angrily to take action against people like Pierre Vogel. Meanwhile, even an English subtitled version is ...

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